Homsexual questions to agonize over or not.

Brian McLaren gives a thoughtful repsonse to the "responders" of this orginal post on the Out of Ur blog. Clearly he is talking back mostly to Driscoll whose original response was devastating.

Leadership Blog: Out of Ur: Brian McLaren on the Homosexual Question 4: McLaren's Response

For example, if you are certain without a shadow of doubt that homosexual behavior is always wrong, where do you draw the line: Do you let a homosexual person be a member of your church, or an attender? Does your exclusion apply only to “practicing” gays, or to celibate people of gay orientation? How many weeks can they attend without being given an ultimatum? How do you find out if a supposedly nonpracticing person is hiding their secret behaviors? How many failures do you allow before excommunication? And do you allow heterosexual people who attend your services to have gay friends? Must they confront those friends in order to be faithful Christians? What if they don’t? What if your leading elder comes to you to say his daughter has come out as a lesbian? What if your daughter comes out? Or conversely, if you are an “open and affirming” congregation, do you require fidelity or do you allow promiscuity? How do you enforce that? Do you accept people who think homosexuality is wrong? What if they repeatedly share their opinions publicly and in so doing scare away gay people whom you seek to receive? Are you then open and affirming of homosexuals, but not of people who consider homosexuality a sin? If you don’t find at least some of these questions agonizing, I’m not sure what to say.

I find it curious to Brian that he would agonize over these questions. I am not sure I do. Is there something wrong with me? Let me see if I can take answer these.... (Brian's questions are in purple, my responses in uhhh the other color.

For example, if you are certain without a shadow of doubt that
homosexual behavior is always wrong, where do you draw the line: Do you
let a homosexual person be a member of your church, or an attender?
Yes they can be a member if they are celibate. Just like a heterosexual can.

 Does your exclusion apply only to “practicing” gays, or to celibate
people of gay orientation?
Well clearly a practicing gay is committing the same sin as heterosexual person. Niether would be allowed to remain in good standing at my church.

How many weeks can they attend without being
given an ultimatum?
I don't know if there is a biblical requirement on weeks allowed to stick around. I hope we would use the same sort of biblical reonciliation we would with any other "sinner".

How do you find out if a supposedly nonpracticing
person is hiding their secret behaviors?
I don't know,  how do we find out? They tell us, someone else tells us, what kind of question is that?
How many failures do you allow
before excommunication?
I am pretty sure we don't excommunicate people at a Bible church, but I hope after one failure the process of reconciliation begins. But we all know that there is normally many "failures" before a problem comes to light.

And do you allow heterosexual people who attend
your services to have gay friends?
I hope so, because I have gay friends.

Must they confront those friends in
order to be faithful Christians?
I hope not. Again is there some sort of biblical requirement for confrontation of homosexuals? My friends are clear where me and my wife stand on the issue, and belive it or not they still like us.

What if they don’t?
See above.

What if your
leading elder comes to you to say his daughter has come out as a
lesbian?
Most homosexuals I know of, have deep rooted family issues, either a broken relationship(s), abuse or someother serious issue. In whatever case, it is a family issue, so we would begin there.
 What if your daughter comes out?
See above but look in mirror.
Or conversely, if you are an
“open and affirming” congregation, do you require fidelity or do you
allow promiscuity?
How is this even a question? I just don't see any way around sexual purity no matter the orientation.

How do you enforce that?
Just like we do with every sin, intense monitoring with video, GPS and stakeouts. No seriously, we would ask them how they are doing. How else do you hold each other accountable?

Do you accept people who
think homosexuality is wrong?
This again depends on what we are talking about. Is this a person who is celebate or not?

What if they repeatedly share their
opinions publicly and in so doing scare away gay people whom you seek
to receive?
While we don't want to scare away gay people we don't to create a sense of permissiveness either. Holding up signs in front of the church would be crossing the line but speaking the truth in love is encouraged.

 Are you then open and affirming of homosexuals, but not of
people who consider homosexuality a sin?
I don't understand this question.

If you don’t find at least
some of these questions agonizing, I’m not sure what to say.
None of these questions were all that agonizing. Which is why it is so hard for me to understand Brian's point.